- See Full List On Crusaderkings-two.fandom.com
- What Is The Best Succession Law? :: Crusader Kings II General ...
- Ultimogeniture Is Underrated | Paradox Interactive Forums
- Preventing Succession Crisis
Primogeniture is a succession law where the eldest son (or daughter, if gender laws permit) inherits all titles.
Features[edit]
- Right balance between ultimogeniture and seniority, with experienced heirs inheriting the realm, but not too old so they can still achieve things in their reigns.
- Title usually stays within ruler's branch of the dynasty, making it more important to educate heirs properly and ensuring that they stay out of trouble/danger before succession.
- Can be problematic in case of an old ruler outliving his eldest son; inheritance going directly to the deceased eldest son's under-age son, making a succession crisis likely.
- One of the few succession laws available to Indian religions.
- Unavailable for Muslim and tribalpagan rulers.
- Without Conclave DLC activated: Requires at least High crown authority, and is the succession law which requires the highest Crown Authority.
- With Conclave DLC activated: Requires Late Feudal Administration, regardless of de jure kingdom laws.
Opinion[edit]
Crusader Kings 2 is free now. Not sure for how long. While PDXCon is going? And all the DLC is discounted, so that's all nice. I'm guessing this means they're gonna announce Crusader Kings 3.
A ruler under primogeniture succession will face the following opinion modifiers:
Character | Opinion modifier | Reason |
---|---|---|
Oldest child | +20 | Direct benefactor of law |
All other children set to inherit | -20 | They would prefer gavelkind |
All other dynasty members | -5 | Title less likely to pass to other branches of dynasty. |
- Crusader Kings 3 has finally arrived, letting players try their hand at staying alive as a medieval ruler, and with it, also come its first set of mods. Day one Crusader Kings 3 mod support means that players won't have to wait before they can drastically change their game using total conversions or add smaller UI elements that are missing by default.
- Mar 06, 2014 7 Great Tips to Improve at Crusader Kings 2 ? CK2 Tips & Tricks Strategy Guide - Duration: 4:06. Mah-Dry-Bread - Gameplay & Streams! Recommended for you.
Mechanic[edit]
The heir to a ruler's title with primogeniture succession is determined through several steps, ranked from more to less important. Through this whole process, all people are assumed alive, even those who are dead.
- The eligible children of the ruler are divided into man/woman categories if gender laws apply. These categories are ranked according to these laws.
- The eligible children of the ruler are then ranked within these categories according to their age.
- The highest ranked child inherits the title. If this character happens to be dead, he is considered to have died just after his inheritance and steps 1-3 are repeated to determine his/her heir.
- If there are no eligible heirs to be found among a dead character's descendants, this character is disqualified from succession and we move up to his/her father as the heir. Again, if this person happens to be dead, he is considered to have died just recently and we start the process again until an eligible heir has been found.
- Under agnatic-cognatic succession: If a woman is found to be an heir but she has son(s), she will be ranked after her son(s). A woman with a son is ranked before a woman without a son, regardless of her age.
- Under absolute cognatic succession: The oldest child inherits regardless of gender.
Example[edit]
Agnatic-cognatic primogeniture succession example
In the family tree included to the right, William is an emperor that follows agnatic-cognatic primogeniture succession.
According to rules 1 and 2, his son William is first to inherit and his daughter Wilhelmina second. Since William the Younger is dead and childless, he is disqualified according to rules 3 and 4. So, Wilhelmina is the first heir.
Because emperor William has no more descendants, we move up to his father Christopher. He is dead, so we move to Robert, the second eldest son. He is dead and childless, so he is disqualified. We then move to Adam but are faced with the same problem. Since there are no more sons, Roberta is next in line as the eldest daughter. However, according to rule 5, her son Thomas takes precedence. So Thomas is the second heir and Roberta the third.
All of Christopher's descendants have been assessed, so we can move up again in the family tree to Adam. Johann is next in line to succeed. He may be dead, but that does not mean his children are ranked any lower. His son Dietmar is the fourth heir we find. From the same principle, Dietmar's son Ludwig is the fifth heir.
The order of succession is:
- Wilhelmina
- Thomas
- Roberta
- Dietmar
- Ludwig
Strategies[edit]
If a kingdom is already in existence, attempting to switch to primogeniture may be a daunting task due to the high CA requirement. However, with the Conclave DLC activated, the requirement of Late Feudal Administration is easier to obtain.
- Secure favors from your councilors: Sway enough of them to vote for the administration change.
- Switch to Primogeniture indirectly: If you have Gavelkind or Elective gavelkind succession laws and wish to escape into Primogeniture, consider changing to Seniority or Elective first, while working up your Crown Authority (or Late Feudal Administration with Conclave).
- Independent dukes and counts whose de jure kingdoms do not exist can consider changing to primogeniture before creating kingdoms.
- If possible, switch to a different religion from your de jure king: Crown law applications are different if you and your de jure king have different religions. Beware of switching to a heretical or infidel religion, as that presents different problems.
Feudal elective • Princely elective • Imperial elective
See Full List On Crusaderkings-two.fandom.com
Patrician elective • Nomad succession • Papal succession • Investiture
![Preventing Succession Crisis Preventing Succession Crisis](/uploads/1/2/6/5/126597023/360314915.png)
Retrieved from 'https://ck2.paradoxwikis.com/index.php?title=Primogeniture&oldid=29972'
Are you new to Crusader Kings 2 and don’t know where to start? You probably encountred the tip to start from Ireland for the begging but the game is still slow and/or confusing? Fear not for this guide will show you how to create a kingdom in one character!
Chapter 0: Before We Start
Before we start let’s clear something out that can be confusing for new players:
Cassus Beli is a reason for war. Without it you can’t fight. You can wage war against someone who has lands you or one of your courtiers have claim on and few other reasons, but for the sake of this guide we will need just Claim and De jure.
De jure means “by law”. Every duchy consists of counties, every kingdom is made of duchies and so on. If you have duchy title, but not all of it’s de jure lands belong in your realm, you can wage war against outside holders. Winning De jure war always results in realm coming to your realm (but if you are the king it’s not always for you, I will describe it later).
Claim is “legal” right for the land. Legal is in quotation marks since they can be fabricated (important!). Pressing a claim means wage a war in a name of person having the claim agains person holding the title. Winning the war not always result in land coming to your realm! If you are not claimant there are two conditions that must be met to get a land through Claim war:
- Claimant must already have land in your land (barony will suffice).
- The title you are pressing claim on must be lower than yours.
For example, if ou are a duke and you press claim on a duchy for someone else, that person will be independant. But if you are king and press a claim on duchy for your vassal duke, then duke will have two duchies and you still are his liege.
That should be enough to get you starting.
Chapter 1: Starting Up
Step 1: Choosing your character.
For begginers, Ireland with a starting date of 1066 is a good choice for couple of reasons. Most rulers are count-tier which means they have up to 3 counties which is low. That gives you early advantage since you can easly gain more lands and be the most powerful person in the land.
Easiest characters are:
- Murchad ua Brian, duke of Munster – he is a duke with a single county, two vassals, a De jure claim on a nerby county, male heir and, what’s most important, a historical bloodline. That bloodline can be passed to his descendants which give ua Brians an advantage over other Irish rulers.
- Aed ua Conchobair, duke of Connacht – an old guy with realm of two is weaker than Murchad, but still relevant since he is duke, but he lacks the bloodline and lands. His advantage lies in his position. West Connacht has a double battle modifer giving your troops advantage and giving enemies disadvantage at the same time (attacking from here gives our troops disadvantage though).
- Murchad ua Cheinnselaig, count of Dublin – his start is a little bit trickier than the last two since he is a count and has no de jure claims. But he has two things other counts hasn’t at that is county of Dublin which is both duchy and kingdom de jure capital (it gives nice modifier to troops) and is an heir for county of Leinster, which makes him triple count. His dad has to die first though, by natural means, or your scheming. He is old, so you can just wait up.
For the sake of simplicity, the rest of the guide will be made as if ua Brian was chosen to play.
Step 2: Council. First thing you do is checking your council.
- Set your chancellor to Fabricate claim job on whatever county near you, but in case of Desmond it’s not needed(you already have De jure claim on it so it ‘s not neccesary, but if you fabricate claim you prevent a civil war, more on it later).
- Set your marshal to train troops in your capital
- Set your steward to collect taxes in your capital
- Set your spymaster to Study technology in another country (if you are ua Cheinnselaig and are plotting to kill your father set him to Build Spy network in Leincester)
- Set your chaplain to improve religous relation with any of your bishops.
If any of your council members has their stats below 15 here is a quick way to change it:
Go to Find character.
Set join court on yes and search all (remember that only men can be in council, exception is rulers wife who can be spymaster).
Filter them by what ability you need and invite those with best. Profit!
Having done that let’s go to the next step, which is…
Step 3: Stabilizing your realm using a civil war.
Yes you read that right. You are going to cause a civil war to get the counties your vassals have. We are doing it because if you control the county, you get all the troops, if it’s your vassal, it’s 40% at best. How do you do that though? There are 2 ways: the way of tyrant and the way of intrigue.
The way of tyrant is simpler one, but crippling your opinion. Just revoke the titles one by one and crush them. Be careful though, this impose tyranny (-40 opinion, ouch).
The way of intrigue takes longer but doesn’t impose tyranny:
The way of tyrant is simpler one, but crippling your opinion. Just revoke the titles one by one and crush them. Be careful though, this impose tyranny (-40 opinion, ouch).
The way of intrigue takes longer but doesn’t impose tyranny:
- Go to intrigue (F7).
- In My Plots you have a table, click on the blue “Choose a plot”.
- Choose “Revoke county of …”
To succeed you need 80% plot power and at least 1 backer (that’s why your chaplain works on improving relations). If you meet the requirements, there is decision to revoke the county. By revoking them in this way vassals usualy rebel, which means you have to apply good old way of crushing them to bits. You should have more troops from your one county and vassal so it’s no worry.
When you hold all counties in your realm you can get to next chapter.
Chapter 2: Conquest and Creating the Kingdom
So you have your realm stabilized. Good. Next step after winning the civil wars is more wars.
Step 0: Press your de jure claim on any counties that are outside of your realm and proceed to do with them what you did in chapter 2. If you are over your demense limit, raise the centralization law
Step 1: Fabricate Claim.
This is the reason most people don’t play as Ireland when they learn to play. Other countries can gain lands by pressing other claims, but Irish usually have to do without it at the beginning, which is bit tedious.
If you managed to fabricate the claim, just press it and win war and proceed to next step.
This is the reason most people don’t play as Ireland when they learn to play. Other countries can gain lands by pressing other claims, but Irish usually have to do without it at the beginning, which is bit tedious.
If you managed to fabricate the claim, just press it and win war and proceed to next step.
Step 2: Foregin Climants.
If you didn’t or you don’t want to wait for Fabricate to work then find a county you want to conquer. Click on it’s shiled and it will take you to the realm page. There is a button named “Claimants”. If it’s grey then though luck, try elswehere. If it’s blue, then let’s get to party. Clicking the button shows you the list containing all people with claims to that realm. If beside their portrait is green thumb up, then you hit a jackpot and can invite him to court. You can now press his claim in war, BUT DON’T DO THAT YET! If he doesn’t have land in your realm, he will just become new independent ruler, so first you have to give him something (even a barony will suffice). Then press the claim and win the war. If you are short on counties to give (leave at least as much as your most powerful vassal have to yourself), then just chapter 2 someone. Repeat this step until you have 10 counties in your realm, and then…
If you didn’t or you don’t want to wait for Fabricate to work then find a county you want to conquer. Click on it’s shiled and it will take you to the realm page. There is a button named “Claimants”. If it’s grey then though luck, try elswehere. If it’s blue, then let’s get to party. Clicking the button shows you the list containing all people with claims to that realm. If beside their portrait is green thumb up, then you hit a jackpot and can invite him to court. You can now press his claim in war, BUT DON’T DO THAT YET! If he doesn’t have land in your realm, he will just become new independent ruler, so first you have to give him something (even a barony will suffice). Then press the claim and win the war. If you are short on counties to give (leave at least as much as your most powerful vassal have to yourself), then just chapter 2 someone. Repeat this step until you have 10 counties in your realm, and then…
Step 3: Long live the king!
You can create a kingdom now, but don’t be so hasty, there is one last thing to do before making kingdom! Your deflaut succesion law is Gavelkind which means all your sons get some of your lands when you die. You want to change that to ethier Tanistry or Primogeniture.
You can create a kingdom now, but don’t be so hasty, there is one last thing to do before making kingdom! Your deflaut succesion law is Gavelkind which means all your sons get some of your lands when you die. You want to change that to ethier Tanistry or Primogeniture.
When I wrote Tanistry, I felt the fanbase howl in hatred at me, but please just listen.
Both succesion laws make it so all your ladns go to your heir after your death. Difference is that in Primogeniture your heir is always your eldest child (usually son) and in Tanistry your heir is Tanist.
Tanist is chosen by you and your vassals from your dynasty (they tend to favor the elders). So you ask why the hell would I want that. Answer is simple: usually you don’t, but there are two exceptions:
Both succesion laws make it so all your ladns go to your heir after your death. Difference is that in Primogeniture your heir is always your eldest child (usually son) and in Tanistry your heir is Tanist.
Tanist is chosen by you and your vassals from your dynasty (they tend to favor the elders). So you ask why the hell would I want that. Answer is simple: usually you don’t, but there are two exceptions:
What Is The Best Succession Law? :: Crusader Kings II General ...
- If your realm is full of counts of your dynasty, it enables you to gather all your familys land back togheter (not quite, since vassals usually favor landless heirs, but it’s possible).
- Primogeniture gives all your not-eldest child -10 opinion on you, which means nothing, unless they are also your vassals.
Ultimogeniture Is Underrated | Paradox Interactive Forums
For the rest of the land, ethier conquer them with de jure claim or offer them vassalization. Many accept if you haven’t waged war on them.
Chapter 3: What Next?
When you become the king, you should already have a knack on this game, so ethier go play someone else, or become emperor of Britannia.
Preventing Succession Crisis
To become emperor, just do what you did earlier on dukes instead of counts. Best order of conquering the British isles is Wales, Scotland and England. Wales are just a bunch of dukes, like Ireland was before you happend, but it has less land than Ireland, so it’s not a best start. Scotland is already a kingdom, and it can kick your ♥♥♥ quick if you don’t watch it, but getting it piece by piece is quite easy. England is trickier due to it’s size, but doable if you have Wales or Scotland under your thumb.